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to sit out in the rain? it was catnip vying for the perfect caption at number 10 cat to larry for pm. with that photo, larry was catapulted into the stratosphere of feline fame. jenny moos, cnn, new york. >> and anderson starts now. he's being mocked in london with a giants ingreatable todd learn, but is he really more like the boy who cried wolf, john berham here in for anderson. that's the question of the president of the united states and how we view him. have we only become so accust accustomed of his lying about things big and small we risk he might be telling the truth about something big and important. this all came up because the president held a press event today and, yes, he told a number of lies, which is normal for him, yeah, that alone is nuts,
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it's where we are. because it's where we have been for several years now, we have adjusted and because of that, we talked here about whether it's even news anymore when the president lies, but it is, of course it is. because it always matters when the president of the united states gets up on the world stage and lies, no matter how big lie or little so tonight keeping them honest, we will be debunking them, also focusing on how this parade of little lies may be making it tough to take anything the president says seriously, especially those things we really need to take seriously. first, quickly, the little lies, number one, the protests. >> i did see a small protest today when i came, very small. so a lot of it is fake news, i hate to say. but you saw the people waving the american flag, waving your flag. it was tremendous spirit and love. it was great love. there was an alliance. and i didn't see the protesters
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until just a little while ago. it was political people put in for fake news. >> actually on the screen, we will show you, there have been sizable demonstration. just because you don't see something doesn't mean it did not happen. then their records, the president loves him some records. >> i have a 90%, 94% approval rating as of this morning in the republican parties. that's an all time record. you can believe that? isn't that something? i love records. >> they used data going back decades, they found dwight eisenhower and both george bushes polled better among republicans than donald trump. finally there is this one on brexit. >> i really predicted what was going to happen. some of you remember that prediction. it was a strong wrix. made at a certain location on a developing. we were opening the day before it happened. >> keeping them honest. this one is so hard to figure.
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it's so unnecessary. the president actually did predict brexit. he did it months before the fact. but not the day before as he said today and not at his fossil course in scotland. he did talk about brexit there. but he did not makeen any predictions. how could he? because it was a day after the vote. so he took a introduced and flattering story and turned it into an easily checkable lie. it's not a big lie, it's a dumb lie, one of those lilg lies we become so accustomed to. to, this may noye not be his threat to hit mexico with tariffs next week. >> mexico shouldn't allow millions of people to come into our country. they can stop it. if they won't, we will put tariffs on. every month they go from 5% to 10% to 15% and to 20 and 25%. >> and that's serious stuff
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according to estimates. the cost from tariffs not just on mexico will more than double this year from $414 to $831 per household. that's a big thing, a big costly thing. no one is quite sure whether the president really means to carry it through. not families that have to tighten their belts. not mexico. senate republicans are pushing back. no one knows how seriously to take this very big thing. could all the lies have something to do with that? all right. let's get much more on this, first, let's check in with cnn's jim acosta in london. jim, representatives from the white house along with doj, they believed senate officials today. what did they say and how were they received? >> reporter: well, i will tell you, john, we talked to a number of sources, i talked to a source this evening, a senior official on capitol hill who said look the folk that came over from the white house to brief republican lawmakers at this luncheon
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earlier today seemed fought prepared, not only in how to detail i guess how all these tariffs will be implemented and put into place, also unprepared to deal with the pushback headed from their fellow republicans, in the words of this one republican official, they must have seen this coming. they should not have been surprised by all of this what is happening, john, republican versus gone along with the president's tariffs on china so far. they've seen that as retaliating. they see this as something being very different. they see this as going after mexico, because of the policy down on the border and the president is trying to get some sort of response out of mexico by slapping these tariffs. senator ted cruz, who has been a strong critic of the president in the past apparently talked at length how he is not worried how they will affect texans on the u.s. side but if mexico retaliates and poses their own tariffs that could hurt people in mexico as well.
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you have some people raising big concerns, john. >> do you have some sense how hard the president is willing to fight for these tariffs? >> well, that was also indicated during this meeting. it's interesting, john, you remember when the president declared that national emergency to use money from other parts of the federal government to pay for his border wall him some of those white house officials earlier today talked about the prospect of the president declaring another national emergency powers to try to impo es these tariffs on mexico. that was also something that raised eyebrows in that room with republican senators. as one of our colleagues on april hill herd from one republican aid after this meeting was over with, they described this as a cluster f. i won't complete the word there, john. there are fellow republicans of this president who came out of that meeting scratching their heads, wondering what the president is going to do. you heard him say earlier today with the prime minister teresa may that he intends to do this
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coming next week and it seems that his own party is unprepared for that, john. >> thank you as always for your discretion joining me, analyst max boot, author of the conservatism, also seen in senior political analyst david gergen who has been on his share of trips like this one dating back to smooth hollidays. david. look, when push comes to shove do you really think enough republicans would actually go against the president to override a presidential veto? >> yes. i do. i think that this issue in particular has great resonance within the republican party and a lot of senators have their own well being at take here and their own popularity in their own state. so i think this is one the president could lose out right. let me go back to the fundamental question when all this lying. i think we become numb to it.
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>> that is in some ways diminishes our outrage of any particular lie. it's the reverse that's important. we no longer believe him when he wants us to believe. there, it depends if he wants to say something, we are skeptical of the truth. it's difficult to govern and to lead other people if they fundamentally don't believe you are telling the truth. trust is still an old fashioned idea, but it's still the coin of the realm in politics. >> that's why we set this thing up this way, david. when he talks about this tariff, it's a very big deal. you want to believe the president that the threat means something. max, david says he really believes the republicans in the senate will stand up to the senate this time. what does it say to you everything that's happened the last two years in office this is where the republicans and the senate can choose to take a stand. why this? >> better late than never, i'm a
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little more skeptical than david as to whether there will be a successful spinal transplant for republicans on the hill. they have been suppine on everything trump has done. they had a real opportunity in march i think it was when they could override his state of emergency, which he is doing to run an inrun and spend money congress has not appropriated for the border wall. you only have 13 republicans in the house and that's not enough to override a veto. programs now in this current situation, from he could do real damage to very red states like texas, maybe there will be enough republicans to override him. i certainly hope so i will not get my hopes up. i have been waiting time and time again for more than two-an-a-half years now for republicans to finally show a little back bone and stand up for any reported believes as treasurer has trashed them one after another. i have been sorely disappointed. i won't get my hopes up on this
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occasion. >> you heard a death and discreet report quoting a senate gop aid who said the meeting that the white house had with senators was a cligsuster f. what does it say that to you that the white house wasn't prepared to sell senators on this? >> this has been a flawed decision-making process from the beginning. it was not a proposal that was thoroughly vetted within the administration clearly people in the white house did not understand. it was something that's fundamental. i think you do if you are the white house you go to the congress and consult with them and clearly that simply was not done. you know so there is an incompetence level here that i think is at play. i think it's one of the opts reasons why so many senators are starting to rebel. max is right, we've waited a long, long time to see
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republicans rise up and assert principles. but i sense we are very close to that moment. it may not happen here. but i do think it's coming. >> i keep looking at my computer. they say the president actually made a statement on twitter. after calling chuck schumer names. he says at the bottom of the tweet about the terror threat, it's no bluff, which is so interesting that he's saying this. it's no bluff. again it gets to the essence of what we are discussing here, max? do we believe him? i'm not sure most people believe this threat from the beginning. do believe it's gen win? >> i have no idea, john, i'm not sure what donald trump, himself knows two hours from now, it's hard to know what he will do a couple days from now. remember a couple weeks ago the threat was he was going to close the border and he seemed serious about with mexico and there was
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so much blow back he backed off and pre send theed he never considered that idea so you can go either way, either he will implement them or deny he did them in the first place. it will take a psychologist to figure out which is the most right one. i don't think any analyst has the right way of knowing for sure. >> john, very briefly. i think we always assume when trump says something like that it's not a bluff. >> that he will get part way along and realize he needs to get out of it. everybody will declare a victory. that's what we thought he was going to do on china. we thought he would work a compromise and here we are, what amounts to a full scale trade war and the relationship is deteriorating rapidly. >> that is very threatening to the economy and to our future leadership in the world. i think the problem is that he doesn't have a strategy. he doesn't know what he will do.
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we can analyze it. he doesn't know, himself. we have no idea how he will feel tomorrow and the next day and what will happen. it doesn't make any rational sense. >> he will deny. max boot, david gergen, thanks so much for being with us. next a new potentially explosive chapter from the spy who came in from the cold and wrote a dossier on donald trump and the russians. we're talk about reporting. he is ready to talk about the people investigating the russia probe and author michael wolf on the questions surrounding the new trump administration and some of the bombshell revelations inside it. i will ask him how he thinks this will all end. you will want to hear his answer. (woman) paul, my husband and i need new phones and we're looking to save money. (paul) sprint has a great deal. double the fun. lease the latest iphone and get an iphone xr on us. (woman) the iphone xr has an amazing camera.
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detail in the russia investigation. the personsple of the steel memo fame has agreed to talk to investigators. president trump puts the dossier at the entire case was in his words a witch hunt. a pair of special agents and former senior intel excellencegent adviser phil mudd. phil, you say this will not go well for christopher steele. you see you are concerned for the fbi in all this, how so? >> if you step back, the first question is how significant is the steel investigation into the fbi investigation of the campaign. once we get beyond that, let's say the fbi used his information for example to read the e-mails of carter page, you go to a court, a judge and say this is some of the basis for our investigation. christopher steele now comes in, the first questions will be, what information did you get and how far did you go to affirm that information was accurate?
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if he's able to say i got three sources for every piece of information in that dossier, i will say good. the chances he can say everything i acquired is provable and positive solid. i'd question that, i don't think so. >> i know you have a different view. why don't you agree we phil here? >> well, i think it's important for this investigation to kind of go to some of the roots of what they think is flawed. one thing that steel at the has is that he's a former mi states officer. he is basic ally the equivalent of our cia. he had already left the service. he's a professional intelligence officer. he can speak the language to go to phil's point of why he believe his information was reliable. and i think, though that phil does have a good point. we president getting away from the central point of what this is about. the steele dossier did not start the russia investigation. so i think that needs to be
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clarified and ultimately whatever information he provided that was used by the fbi to the court, it's really the judge's decision on how much weight to give raw intelligence provided by the fbi if it's not corroborated or if that is solely what they are relying on. so in many ways i think that while it can flesh out the investigation it doesn't actually get to some of the misinformation and the critical questions that ought to be answered. which go to the judicial discretion piece. >> from what you know about the fisa applications per the carter page information, you think that was all done properly? right. the question here when it comes to the fbi and the department of justice is, did they disclose to the court that the information that they were providing was coming from a source? did they disclose information that, of the source of the information that may cast any doubt on his credibility, like
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the fact this was opposition research, which they did? and you know did they provide any corroborating information? we don't know that. a lot of that was redacted. but there is no evidence they lied. ultimately it's the judge's job to see if it meets the standard. >> that piece has been completely unaddressed and left out of this whole equation as though it doesn't exist. >> what does it tell you christopher steele is doing this apparently voluntarily? >> it tells me, he didn't phone me. i would have said, you can go to disneyworld. i don't want if i would go to doj. they will ask him 74 questions at least about how he validated this information. as i said a moment ago, you might not have great answers. to your question of why he does this? i'm looking at him saying he has a business. his business is built on respect on his reputation. his reputation is taking a battery. >> you think he is clearing this up? he's not at legal risk.
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he's coming here, i wants to tell a client i cleared my name. >> no one is smarter than fill mudd. he knows there are those that say it's politically motivated and the doj may not treat him with kid gloves. >> you know the inspector general. they're not there to say it ran smoothly. every t crossed. every i dotted. it's not going to be a clean report and i'm going to guess the steele piece is not gentleman to be clean either. it will be ugly. >> we always us talk about the information inside the dossier. there have been things discredited. michael cohen at the prague meeting. the salacious details from the russia hotel. they were never proven. does that matter or does the overall truth of the dossier, which is that the elections were helping donald trump, is that what's important? >> so the relevance of this dossier is that it was used in
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one fisa application for carter page. carter page is one individual in this entire russia investigation. i want to point out this is like one threat. the question is, which piece of the dossier did they rely on? i can tell you they didn't tapele the dossier to a cover letter and hand it to the court and was it corroborated? i think we don't know the answers to those questions yet because most of it has been redacted and the ig report should shed more light on those questions. >> all right. thank you so much. up next, michael wolf, the fire and fury author talks about his new book in the trump white house and the controversial surrounding it. cancer is the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced. we got the idea that if we took two dimensional patient imaging and put it in holographic displays, we could dissect around the tumor
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. michael wolff's first book on the white house was aner national sensation and garnered plenty of controversy. his follow up book is largely criticized and has washington abuzz, it takes place just after
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his celebrated fired and furry. just after air time i spoke to him surrounding his new book and the details in it. all right, your book much like your previous book is getting a lot of attention and creating fair amount of controversy. one of the reasons this time is because of the sourcing. you told the "new york times" you don't reach out for comment for some of the people you write about because and i quote i don't actually believe if you know the answer that you are going to get an answer you are absolutely certain of. >> let me give you a example, should i call up fox news and say are you bias towards donald trump? obviously, we know they would say, no, we're not bias towards donald trump. >> should you call fox news and ask them, did they provide the questions to brett kavanaugh in the interview with martha mccam lull? >> a i knew what they've said.
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i had this discussion in many other situations, remember i have been covering the media for 20 years. i knew they would say no and i knew absolutely that they did. >> you include a lot of salacious stories and annex e next dietz in the book. at a certain point you don't think you need to reach out to some of the people and ask them? >> i think this was misconstrued. i often reach out to people if there is any doubt, if there the any more information, i can get. i'm on the phone, i'm talking to people all of the time. however, if it's a situation which i have to go into and i know the answer. i know they will lie to me. remember, this is trump world. everybody in it is what would be the word? a liar. this is, what itself the mantra of trump world? i would say that they're not if
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you were writing a newspaper article, you would write that denial? >> i am not questioning a newspaper, that is the thing. there aren't different forms. there aren't different approaches is ridiculous, actually and not good for journalism. >> i guess there are some people that say there are source that's not clear and other sources aren't transparent at all. >> i think there is a lot of sourcing that is not financial to be clear here because that's my deal with my sources. >> you write in the author's note, that this book a meant to look at an emotional state rather than a little state. you know this isn't supposed to be a blil political book. what do you mean by that? >> i'm trying to give a picture
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of what trump world is speaking of an emotional state, i think it's a crazy place. i think it has logic long since left this. >> world. >> you wrote a great deal about steve bannon. he is your main avenue, it's fair to say? >> i call him my virgil lesson as in a dissent into hell. >> what is hess current relationship with the president? >> i think it's a complicated relationship. they spend a lot of time thinking about one another, i'm wondering if they should go back to working together. both of them saying they would never go back to working together steve is still the bedrock of a lot of the policies the trump administration is pursuing. in many ways, they continue to pursue them, where they don't wander off in other directions, donald trump doesn't, because steve is always pressing this
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agenda. >> but their conversations are through intermediaries or smoke signals. they don't actually speak? >> that is what steve says, yes. >> i want to ask you. it is fascinating. this gets the suggestion the president's personal company is a semi criminal enterprise and bannon responded to you, i think we could drop the semi part. so was he joking or what do you think he meant there? >> i think that he's, he's perfectly straight forward about this. and he's perfectly straight forward about i think the way that most people who have been around donald trump believe. they believe that, you know, donald trump's long career has been a, well, i would say, semi criminal career. steve bannon would say, lose the semi. >> so does he have direct
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knowledge of that you think or suspects it at this point? >> no, i think he probably has yeah, i suspect he does have direct knowledge of that. >> do you think steve bannon believes the president obstructed j us cities? >> i would say that steve bannon would go and characterize this as that's donald trump. so i mean the steve bannon view is partly, you know what this guy is, it's never been any, any illusion otherwise. he's donald trump. that's the man you elected. a man who cannot literally cannot tell the truth. at one point in the book, steve says, see i described steve as saying, i cannot tell you how many times he has looked me in the eye and lied to me.
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>> yet, he's still devoted to him in some ways? >> it's a weird devotion. it's love-hate or it's in you know repulgs, attraction. you know, remember, steve made donald trump president, donald trump made, transformed steve into a voice in the world. >> back to the obstruction issue. the reason i was asking if you think steve bannon thinks the president obstructed justice. you write bannon saying, never send a marine to do a hit man's job. he's talking about robert mueller. i wasn't sure what that meant. it made me wonder. >> i think i can explain. >> did he want mueller to catch him? >> he doesn't want. he didn't -- it depends i think on the moment of the day. >> sometimes he wanted museum tore catch him? >> i think sometimes he believed he would catch him. it was inevitable. you know, but what he literally meant, it's really interesting,
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because i think it go es to the heart of where mueller is now what we think of this investigation he defends the institution. he's fought going to, i think if the choice became for bob mueller, give donald trump a pass give donald trump the temple down. i think he would give him a pass. >> you write that clearly. what do you want people to take from this book in and apart from the first one? >> this is. i think it gets crazier and crazier that donald trump is more isolated, more alone, that as we see this we let it seen that donald trump is there come
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to nant personality. i think this is the story of the meltdown. one of the greatest political meltdowns of all times. >> where do you think it ends? >> in tears. there whose tears? >> donald trump's tears. >> what does steve bannon think it ends? >> there in donald trump's, let's put it this way, i said to steve, i referred to the possibility of trump getting another term, winning the election and steve said, stop! >> all right. michael wolff. thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> still to come, vice president biden fires back at his fellow democrats running for president and new cnn polling on the race, see what it means for biden and the other candidates next.
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. in case joe biden's opponents for president thought maybe he'd fade, he hasn't. yes, the former vice president is down seven points in the latest cnn poll. he's still the front runner in double digits over everyone else. biden is at 32%, sanders at 18%, everything e everyone who made the cut is in single digits. today in new hampshire, he had a message for his fellow
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candidates, many of whom criticized his approach over the weekend. >> you got to get people working together, otherwise, there is no way this country can continue to function like it had in the past and will in the future. it's -- i'm not talking about going back to the past. i'm talking about avoiding a terrible future. if we do not. if we do not figure out how to make this work. aoc is now working with ted cruz. she's trying to get it. tell me that one, okay? >> hard to believe. >> c'mon. look, i understand. i don't blame them. they got to, you know, they're good folks, but we know, see you around. >> help me make down those comments, cnn director and commentator adrew gil em. david, even though the vice president's numbers may have waned a little bit.
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he's in an ini havable position, no? >> without a doubt. he's still in a field of his own. he has this commanding lead over bernie sanders, who quite frankly is in the spiace of his home and everyone else is in single digits. >> that 7 point, remember, mar union of error, plus or minus 6 points. i think it begs the question, john, is this the beginning of a slide or is this just losing some altitude from an announcement balance and this is where he is settling in. >> north of 30% in a three candidate field is still very good. does he stay there? mayor gillum, you heard him talk about not going back to the past. that's a line of attack he will hear a lot. if you look at our polling, younger voters are likelier at this point to support sanders than they are the vice president. so is this an area or should it be an area of concern for joe
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biden? >> i tell you, if you are vice president biden or senator sanders, you woebl e probabprob these numbers. they are occupying a good space. my caution is it is still early in the process, the first debate hasn't taken place. we know that younger voters will obviously be in search of something inspiring and different and that's not to say that the two current front runners can't provide that. but certainly it's going to be a challenge. the question for me will be, do they stay here or as candidates expose themselves even greater to the ewillic tore rat. -- electorate or is there slippage there. >> this gets to is there an opportunity? because 44% of potential primary voters say they've already made up their mind who they will support. that's early in the race before the debate has started. >> really before we've seen
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candidate versus candidate clashes outside the debate stage as well, listen, i am a big believer that campaigns matter, candidates matter, this will become engaged and external events can happen and change perceptions. but that number is intriguing. 44%, that only leaves 55% right now who say they may change their mind, john, that are really up for grabs. by the way, if you are a biden or sanders supporter, you feel more exited. they do really well among that segment of the population that says they are going to stick with their choice. probably because their known commodities, but i do think we should just urge a little caution there. there is going to be a campaign to take place. i would imagine somebody will say today they're committed to their choice all the way through, that could potentially clang down the road. >> true, my thesis in college is campaigns matter. leave that out there for you. mayor gillum, you brought up the idea the candidates may need to expose themselves more, things may change, this might be
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particularly relevant to joe biden who has to an extent stayed back a little bit from some of the larger cattle call events, not campaigning quite as much as others. how long can or should he do this? >> well, i tell you, i think vice president biden is going to be at his best as he's out there on the trail being scrappy, not presuming. >> that he'll be the eventual nominee. i think our side more than anything hates the idea of presumption and for the other candidates who right now may be displaying around this poll because they may not see themselves right now in a position they want to see themselves in, while having good polling right now could be helpful for fundraising. i would use my own personal experience as a little of a reminder. and my primary race, the five way race, there wasn't a single poll showing me winning the nomination and the fast forward in the gem election, there wasn't a single public poll showing me losing the general election. so i have caution to the wind when it comes to these polls.
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it's worth running the rates to see what happens. >> i will say there was movement in both directions that was perceptible. i know we are way in front of what voters actually vote. you can look at trends, your case is a perfect example of that. the last question, the debates start next month. how will this clang the shape and maybe even the size of the race? >> well, this poll we learned that michael bennett, the senator from colorad, seems to be the 20ing person to make the polling threshold to get on to a debate stage initially here in just a few weeks. right now and you know there is a fundraising threshold and ale poing threshold. we can get more polls. in this next week, john, be every that deadline sets in a week from now, right now, seth moulton, wane messup, steve bullock are sort of left out in the cold in the moment. we will see if they can make threshold and have to provide tie breakers, that is one way the polls shape the debate
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stage. >> what do you do after that if you are not on the despite stage, we have to see going forward. thank you very much for being with us. stay with us, a lot more straight ahead, including a new arrest in a parkland school shooting that claimed 17 lives. who was arrested and the counts they face when we come back. ♪ ♪ award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. what you need and so much more. at wayfair, you'll find just the volvo xc90. you get to spend less time searching and more time loving every room, even the ones you never thought could look good.
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the former school resource officer criticized for not trying to confront the parkland school gunman is facing 11 counts including felony child negligent. scott peterson, once a broward county sheriff's deputy also faces charges of negligence and perjury. he retired after the valentine's day shooting in 2018 and is now collecting a pension. he was fired today at a disciplinary hearing. peterson did not enter the high
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school as the shooting began but stayed outside. in the past his lawyer said it's a gross oversimplifications to say he was cowardly because he believed the gunshots were coming from outside of the building. chris, this is a new chapter, really a new legal chapter in this tragedy. >> the legal analysis is going to be straightforward. the last part you just put out there, if it's reasonable that he thought it was coming from the outside, what is his problem with that analysis? duration. this kept happening and kept going on and people were running out and saying things were going on was he never aware of any of that? the reckoning was that people were running past him. it becomes a less reasonable thing but now there's something else. what do you punish? there's a fundamental frustration in this. i tried this out on one of my friends today and he was like hey the man is paid to provide a service and that service is you go in when people are running
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out. you go after danger. that's your job. you didn't do it. you didn't do it on purpose. you lose. fine. the second level of the frustration is, so that's the one thing that we find that we can fix in this situation is punishing the guy that digit go in? all the different aspects to these problems that we do nothing about and this is the part we act on. it's going to be frustrating for people but i see the legal analysis. >> chris, thank you very much. i know you have a great show coming up. see you in a few minutes. coming up a possible new prison destination for president trump's former campaign chair paul manafort. not a place he is likely to enjoy. with verizon up, we won luke bryan tickets. it was amazing. so we are walking through the crowd. you know you have your badge and you're just, all you got to do is wave it up. we're like, "okay these are pretty neat seats.
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>> there's strong indications that paul manafort could be heading to another prison. that's because he's also facing charges from new york state where he will have to make appearances in court. what may be next for the man that traded designer pinstripes for government issued horizontal ones. >> did you commit a crime? >> for years paul manafort lived the high life. multiple homes, expensive cars, silk rugs, even a $15,000 ostrich jacket. not to be confused with his l lizard jacket. that lifestyle is a world away from where he is soon heading. reichers island. the notorious prison complex serving new york city. >> before being convicted last year of bank and tax fraud
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trump's former campaign chairman was a big sepender. more than $400,000 in one year at one clothing store. a $21,000 watch and $450,000 in landscaping over 5 years at his estate in the hamptons. that hamptons home is known to have one of the biggest ponds around as well as a red and white flower bed in the shape of an m. >> until now manafort has been serving his federal sentence in a low security prison in pennsylvania but because he is also facing state felony charges in new york including residential mortgage fraud he may be moved to new york state. according to the new york times in 2017 at riker 87% of the inmates were pretrial detainees. most are yet to be convicted of a crime. manafort is 70 years old and rikers island is no picnic for
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inmates. this is exclusive video from inside. he would likely be held in solitary confinement for months, perhaps for his own safety. the new york times reports high profile inmates at rikers are generally held in protective custody including pretrial detainees like manafort. in 2015 the city settled a lawsuit following a multiyear investigation that found adolescent inmates were not protected from the rampant use of excessive force by guards and inmates. it has poor living conditions. it highlights the slashings and stabbings and stories of inmates in their own feces or experiencing seizures with little help from the guards. still there's been a drastic reduction in violent incidents
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at the jail over the past two years. manafort would meanwhile hardly be the first high profile inmate. others include david berkowitz. and hardly a list of names and randy kay cnn new york. >> we'll hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> 12 were murdered friday and already lawmakers are taking sides and they haven't even started the discussion. senator corey booker wants to be your leader and he knows what to do about gun violence. what are his ideas and how can he get something done? and are tariffs on mexico, one reckless move too many for gopers? a